Bandini's Brave Attempt To Get Some Dis(Closure).

 So this is what happened a few nights back. I had some exchange on Twitter regarding the Giving Victims A Voice Report, and afterwards I thought I'd check up on a few things. I couldn't easily locate the actual report. Instead I got this and I wondered what the hell it was.

Link here

https://www.met.police.uk/foi-ai/metropolitan-police/disclosure-2019/june/giving-victims-voice-joint-nspcc-mps-report/

Now, before I get into this, let me make a disclosure of my own. A few years ago I was aware that a good friend of our cause had submitted a Freedom Of Information Request (FOI) to The Metropolitan Police Force. But for some reason, I'd completely forgotten about it, so when I saw the above I did not initially, put the two together. That happened the following day. I also became aware that another good friend : the blogger known as Moor Larkin had blogged about the matter in 2019, and I didn't know that either (sorry Moor). I'll link his excellent post at the end of this so you can get his view of things. But for now, I want to keep things simple as I can. It's not easy to follow FOI requests, especially when you cannot actually find them anywhere. But I'll do my best.

This is what the MET issued. I have no idea when. The only date mentioned is the date they say they received B's request. I have to make this extra-large because neither you nor I can read it any other way.

If you're reading from the link above, you'll see there's a decision supplied at the bottom but before I tackle that, let's make sure B was right about those two official reports shall we ? 

Page 17 Giving Victims A Voice (Jan 2013) does indeed contain a 12 year old boy, 1972 etc.

Page 299 of Dame Smith's Report (20th February 2016) 

Link to Report. Apologies, I can't find the GVAV PDF that I found the other night but only via an Irish publication, because I can't find it now.

http://downloads.bbci.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/our_work/dame_janet_smith_review/savile/jimmy_savile_investigation.pdf

The two accounts are of the same alleged incident/s aren't they ? I'd say the Balance of Probability is quite high on that one. So, Bandini is on the money here and I for one want to know how the MPS responds to that and the one about just how many crimes this one claim amounted to in January 2013 ? Here goes :

"Duplicate and classified as no crime" ? You just know that the intrepid Bandini won't let that one lie. And what about the fact that the account of this ONE CRIME has changed significantly by the time the Dame's team here it ? Bandini won't be letting the MPS off that easily, I'm sure. And the response he gets is quite staggering. Well, it is if you believe in Justice and fairness and all that.

Surely the "decision" they're referring to is the initial decision of the Savile Police to NOT investigate the Savile claims at at all ? I find it hard to believe that they identified any "discrepencies" circa January 2013, although to be fair, there was the matter of that "duplicate". 

Now folks, that's enough disclosure from the MPS for this FOI Request. But, of course there's more and if they won't disclose it, then I jolly well will ! For Bandini if for no one else ! Here goes, the stuff he sent me.

Read that last paragraph which is supposed to explain why the MPS cannot supply a descriptions of the 214 alleged 'victims' recorded in GVAV January 2013. They cannot supply this information because they are STILL receiving allegations about Savile ! I'm sorry I don't think I have the documents they refer to including the one : "SAVILLE Allegations". If I do find them I shall update this post to included them.

Slippery aren't they ? Operation Yewtree - the bit featuring Savile, officially ended in December 2012/January 2013. Someone tell the BBC and the Huffington Post that that was NOT the case.

Not sure how I'd feel if I'd been one of those 300 that even the MET Police didn't believe ! Maybe some of them were "duplicates" ? Who knows ? Who has a right to know ? Not us, by the looks of things. Which leads me into that blog post by Moor Larkin who, like Bandini, struggles to make sense of things that simply don't make any sense. Read what he has to say about the FOI Request here. Makes one wonder why anyone bothers submitting such a thing in the first place. 

http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com/2019/11/yewtree-real-truth.html

One final point to make about that last paragraph of their decision. WHY the rush to produce and publish a report about Jimmy Savile's alleged "Crimes" when those involved had to know that more alleged victims had to be out there ? All those voices left unheard ? Indeed !

Or maybe not ? The NSPCC you see, have continued their trawl for alleged victims. But that's another story for another day. I need a rest. Thank you for reading !

Bless you Bandini. You tried and for that you did your bit in the struggle of Right against Wrong. I hope you are well and happy. 

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Another Ex-Copper For Hire

 Ahead of tonight's instalment of : Savile was guilty - I know because I investigated him when he was dead. I thought I'd avail my readership of a few facts about ex-D.S Gary Pankhurst. I'll listen to what comes out of his mouth later, for now I'm only interested in his credentials, his background and his mindset as reflected in what he's already told us about himself. 

Here's his online CV.

Gary is now a PH.D student and runs his own consultancy business. Nothing wrong with that and at least he was a real detective for some years, unlike the one ITV hired nine years ago. But burrow down just a little, and ominous signs present themselves. Just how many minutes of police detective school must one endure in order to know that the word here. should be   complainants ?

In summary, the adherence to basic principles is not only fairer but leads to a more effective investigation and clearer outcomes. Officers valued and displayed the principles of good practice, yet this was not consistent across all interviews analysed.  Sexual offences are emotive and difficult allegations to investigate. Interviewers feel a clear responsibility to investigate thoroughly and effectively but to also provide a good response to victims. This work shows the relevance of exploring issues around the wellbeing and mental health of those tasked with interviewing in such investigations given the emotional content described by officers.

https://n8prp.org.uk/interviewing-sexual-offence-suspects-the-impact-of-organisational-professional-and-personal-factors-on-eliciting-information/

To be fair suspect vulnerability at least, considered !

There are potential gaps within the extant literature including: interviewer behaviours within a sexual offence interview, the impact of suspect vulnerability, the effect of personality and trait empathy levels on interview behaviour, and the impact of emotional valence and arousal on the parties within suspect interviews and any influence on interview outcomes. The purpose of the following study was to understand behaviours that were occurring within the interview rooms of sexual offence investigations and how congruent these behaviours are with research findings and practice recommendations.

I wonder if Gary will consider the vulnerability of the dead, when he delivers his opinions about Savile tonight ? Let's see if we can gauge the chances of that, pre-watershed, shall we ?

What he said to the press.

Oh dear ! Not looking good is it ? A 'terrorist' ? 

Obviously ex-police officer's have to eat out, get their children through school, as well as themselves through a post-graduate University degree. They have to somehow scratch a living on their 30-year Police pension. But, do they really have to take part in television shows like this ? Had the subject been fairly and conclusively been convicted of a crime, I might applaud their input into my night's entertainment. But Sir Jimmy Savile was not even arrested by the Police during Gary's tenure as a D.S in South London (2007-11). 

Rolf Harris on the other hand, was arrested, charged and convicted of a series of offences and Gary was up to his eyes in that case. He was one of two Police officer's sent to Australia as part of the investigation prior to a charging decision. He gave evidence at the eventual trial. What exactly did he do in Operation Yewtree ? 

Tomorrow night’s documentary takes a fresh look at the sickening story of Savile who, from 1955 up to his death in 2011, had sexually abused at least 72 people, raping eight including an eight-year-old.

A total of 450 claims of abuse and rape were made to 13 police forces — but with the passing of time and Savile’s death, not all of them could be proved.

The press/media don't have to count on ALL of us being thick. They know that a fair proportion of our population is. The same idiots who think doctors deserve to be attacked, will lap up the drivel handed to them by the likes of  the scum. 

Ten years ago the idea of accusing Jimmy Savile of being anything other than a much-loved television star, without good solid evidence, was dismissed by sensible heads at the BBC. How Meirion Jones must have felt when his little project was scuttled and replaced with this ! LOL ! As I generally say on Twitter. 

"Onwards" !