Remember how the Metropolitan Police divided up the investigation they didn't do into three 'strands' ? Well, I'm dividing the Savile stitch up into two. Before and after Barnado's took over the place in 1976.
I won't be drawing any graphs, I'll be relying on words from the horses' mouths. The mid/late 1970's horses' mouths that is. You see I have at least one of these following me on twitter. Her name is Christine Warner, I won't publish her maiden name. I don't want to be unfair or hurt someone who may have endured a troubled background. But, she contacted me first so here we go
She popped up every so often on my TL, generally in response to all things Duncroft, and I started to wonder whether she might be an ex pupil herself
I bided my time hoping she would tell me some truth. I had seen her name mentioned in an email from Fiona, but I wanted to be sure I had the right person. The email was sent in August 2012 two months before Exposure and I have saved it to a word doc in order to edit out names in fairness to the women named.
Want's in ? She's referring to one of the online forums of course
Then, just yesterday this class of 76/77 whatever, finally admitted that she was at Duncroft, something she quickly regretted because she deleted her responses to me but not before I captured this
Thereby admitting that she was NOT there when Jimmy was ! So, if Jimmy was NOT there when she was there, where does this leave the beef biryani girls ?
Note, Fiona refers to Tracey (aka Miss D in levitt's report) the sister of the choir girl.
Keep reading guys and gals
http://rabbitaway.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/exposers-exposed.html
False exposer's tend to expose themselves eventually. But not before they do untold damage to untold people. Remember, Fiona wrote the above posts as Susan Melling read the whole blog and you will understand.
You see, Christine portrays herself as someone who KNOWS something, the 'truth' no less, and yet she wasn't there when Savile was either.
Now, here's another one who showed up on my TL way back. This one calls herself ShiblySheila ! She doesn't have many followers now but she has two
Karin did not follow her until shibly asked her to
I only looked back over shibly's TL because of this
Neither she nor Christine approve of my efforts to establish the truth about Savile in Duncroft. They never offer anything by way of evidence, because they have none. They are both 'friends' with Fiona and they are both 'friends' with Tracey whose sister story formed part of the 2007/9 Police investigation.
Now, shibly claims to have known Karin Ward in 1973/4. I'm not convinced of that. BUT, they do say that the camera never lies, so imagine my surprise when I find this image !
I could be wrong but doesn't this girl look a lot like Toni Townsend ?
And who's the Debbie two girls to her right in 1975 ?
Deborah Cogger ? Who lives in Kent as does Shibly Sheila. So how's about that then ? Of course I could be completely wrong, in which case either she or her other 'friends' can contact me again on twitter !
Before I set away for Guernsey again I'd like to tie up a few loose ends. Dee Coles appeared on our screens BEFORE Exposure was broadcast. She wasn't in the first one or the second - the update, but she was on ITV news the day before.
I myself find her absence in either of the ITV expose's quite strange. After all, there certainly weren't many women ready to go on camera at the start. Thomas couldn't use Ward, he had more than enough time to squeeze another 'victim' in, so why didn't he ? Of course, at this stage of the operation, the words alleges and 'claims' were still being used, and Jimmy was still referred to as Sir Jimmy !
So that's that ! Next, is the wristwatch Jim is wearing in Coles' photos the same or very similar to the one he's wearing at the 1972 parade ? Yes, I'd say it is, but judge for yourself
Doesn't mean she met him in 1972, it's strictly circumstantial evidence maybe not even that because he's wearing the same watch here, and who knows when this was taken
So that doesn't clear that one up but I like to examine all the evidence, as best I can. Now, over to Guernsey and this
Goodness Gracious me ! The vultures were circling alleged off-shore funds that Jimmy may or may not have had. I wonder if they found it ?
This Collins chap makes me sick I don't know about you. Happy days for this geezer who already had Jersey care system claimants on his books, some already paid compensation. Now he could include Savile to his list of targets despite the FACT that claims were allegedly made in Jimmy's lifetime in 2008 to an inquiry panel of all things, yet NOTHING was done to bring this alleged abuser to justice. I mean, it's not as if men hadn't been arrested and charged with such offences.
Which brings me back to an 'iceberg', the mere 'tip' of which was supposed to be Jimmy Savile. Here's how Fleet Street does 'possible links'
And then this, oh my giddy God, I'm seeing my own 'possible links' here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9620223/Jimmy-Savile-He-was-the-tip-of-the-iceberg.html
Now back to the money trail, and why not ? SOMEONE told the Jersey Evening Post a story about alleged bribes to keep the Police quiet. I'm still waiting for the FULL story to be published.
http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2014/09/15/jimmy-savile-paid-off-states-of-jersey-to-avoid-prosecution-claims-witness/
Six years ago ? I wonder if that rumour reached the Jersey Care leavers in 2008, the folks who met with Val Sinason and the Guardian bird ? (See my last post)
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/aug/01/childprotection.jerseyisland
What 'survivors' group is it Dee Coles is a member of again ? Just asking, I need a break guys and gals !
One useful fact I learned in court was that Karin Ward started writing her memoir in 2008. The very year ex Duncroft women were being contacted by the Police, and the same year bones of care home children were being unearthed in Jersey (not).
Now, whilst burrowing in Jersey, I had an idea that there might be more to Meirion's 'R6' than I had first imagined.
R6 is different from the others, she's does not appear to be linked to anyone or anything, Newsnight wise. But, she has according to Mei, spoken to the Police.
I went back to those annoyingly badly presented pages of comments left on the Duncroft page of friends reunited, to look at R6's comments again seeing as she'd mentioned Jersey. She's the one who had spoken to Jamie Pyatt remember ? But then I looked at another comment posted 25/11/2011 (12/029 App12)
'All the perpetrators who abused me got away with it. The Police wouldn't prosecute others from the Norfolk children's home because they were too old or poorly'
Now back in Jersey in 2008 a woman had allegedly made a complaint about Jimmy.
Moreover, it was a member of the Jersey Careleavers Association who had made this complaint to an inquiry !!
Worse still this woman this same woman had been abused at another home
Could this other home have been in Norfolk ? Karin Ward spent time in a care home in Norfolk. Nothing strange about that, until you read the following article about a woman who cannot be named for legal reasons, dated 18th October 2012
From Dereham Times I can't link page
It has to be Ward doesn't it ? But why the secrecy ?
Back to 2008 and another eye-opening article about Jersey 'survivors'
Goodness Gracious me ! Look who forms part of this guardian task force
All these public meetings and yet NO TRACE of any mention of Jimmy Savile at all ! No moaning about the inquiry back then. No crap cops who didn't bother to write your Savile claims up. And, yes that's the Jersey CLA who hosts the event !
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/aug/01/childprotection.jerseyisland
Fast forward 4 years and we have a new JCLA chair (presumably) and Lenny Harper re-writing the story
I'll end this post where I started it, back in App 12 of the Pollard report with a few words cobbled onto the end of an email from Jones to MWT in November 2011. I'm fast becoming a regular visitor to the island myself !
To be contd
If I go quiet guys and gals it's usually cos I'm burrowing. These last few days I've been burrowing in Jersey. I also had a day trip to Guernsey, something I actually did decades ago, as it happens. I'm kinda intrigued as to Dee's story you see. Like Karin Ward, her tale changes every time she tells it. First she met Jim in August 1971, then 1972, then back to 1971. This is what she told reporters after her trip to the 'play' just a few weeks ago.
Goodness Gracious, could Ms Coles have got her battle's mixed up ? Jimmy was certainly Mr Battle in 1969 and 1972 but was he there in 1971 ?
Now Dee like Karin was not in Exposure, her debut was shortly after the broadcast. Here is what she had to say to her local rag on October 4th 2012.
Here's what she claims she never reported
Maybe the mirror misreported her, post monster play that is, maybe not. It does seem strange that she'd remember the month, the hotel but not the year ! Come to mention that hotel, I looked it up because I wanted to have a look at the car park. YES, she says he assaulted her and her mate, in a hotel car park of all places. I found nowt of interest there but then I looked again at one of her photo's, closely ! Have a look at the reflection in the van's mirror guys and gals. Some kind of building is reflected there, meaning this was indeed a public place. You know where I'm going with this, don't you ?
He forced himself on TWO girls in a camper van, in a public place, twice ? Not only must he have been strong, he'd have had to have had at least three arms. In short, it's bullshit, it's just NOT possible. I mean, here's what she told the Telegraph in October 2012
Need I go on ?
Dee, you can't have it all ways pet. You can't describe yourself as a holiday maker in one breath then an inmate of a children's home in the next ! in Jersey on holiday and be in Jersey as a resident of HDLG at the same time ! Which got me wondering if Dee might have been party to the abuse claims allegedly made to Jersey Police in 2008 ? But, I'll cover that next time guys and gals.
In the course of my burrowing I came across a video of Jimmy as Mr Battle in the 1972 event. The event did indeed take place in August that year. But, anyone could find this information easily enough.
And, here he is in 1969
And here's the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4-0-MLWIUg
Jimmy's 'Queen' for the day on both those occasions, apparently thought him a bit 'peculiar'
Now, take a close look at this photo guys and gals, because it would appear that the wristwatch he has on is similar to the one he is wearing in Dee's holiday snaps ! Correct me if I'm wrong or if you can find a colour photo of the above image.
One thing I'm not wrong about is the fact that hundreds of kids and adults turned out to see Jimmy in 1969 and 1972. Many of them appeared to have lived to tell the tale. One of these is Pamela Hale who paid tribute to the man when he died.
http://guernseypress.com/news/2011/11/02/pam-kept-bumping-into-sir-jimmy-%E2%80%93-as-it-%E2%80%99appens/
Jimmy's wearing the same suit he wore in 1972 by the looks of it and although they are pictured in Jersey in 2009, it was in Guernsey where they met in 1973
We'll have a run over to Guernsey next time guys and gals. I'll tell you all about this and other charitable events Jimmy attended. It's too late to put a compo claim in via the schemer's scheme, so I guess it won't do any harm to publish a few FACTS
