What happens if you or I, make a claim that leads to the arrest and, in some cases, conviction of an innocent person ? Would I be arrested ? Moreover, would my public shaming and exposure as a liar make any subsequent claims, of a similar nature, less, or MORE likely to be believed ? It's obvious isn't it, no one would believe me, and they'd be right. So, why have so many folk gotten away with publishing or republishing serious claims of sexual assault ? Like this one for instance ? Yes, it's that eight year old gal again !
In Exposure the update, MWT informs us at 18.25 that poolice are now investigating 16 allegations at Stoke M Hospital, 9 of these 'alleged victims' are represented by Liz Dux. The 'accusations range from indecent assault to RAPE' (MWT's emphasis not mine).
'One of her clients claims to have been just eight years old when Savile attacked her'
Dux - Well some of them are totally shattered .... We are talking about .. went in as patients and came out abused victims'
Several of the victims DID report matters to members of staff ... very promptly after the abuse had taken place'
MWT 'At least two of the nine (her NINE) victims told staff members ?'
Dux 'Yes they did' 'No action was taken'
Amazingly, the official NHS report published eighteen months AFTER these words were spoken, found no evidence that ANY reports were made to Any member of staff at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, or anywhere else for that matter !
SOMEONE has told a barefaced LIE, and no one has owned up to this yet ! Presumably, those two alleged reportees have been awarded compensation ? Don't we have a right to know ? This is, after all, public money that's being frittered away, not just the estate of a dead man !
WHY the hell is no one forcing Liz Dux and MWT to answer questions as to how an eight year old girl, they claim was raped in hospital, became an eight year old boy ? It's important you see because this story was peddled on our TV screens and across the media and press in October/November 2012.
Did the legal requirement of responsible journalism completely disappear in October 2011 ? Let's see what the Savile dame has to say about media reportage of claims that the BBC bosses were essentially aware of Savile's alleged offending shall we ?
http://downloads.bbci.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/our_work/dame_janet_smith_review/savile/chapter_8.pdf
The Press Gazette helpfully provides summaries of the several reports.
Now, what's good about the sun's unreliable report is the fact that the dame goes over and beyond in order to establish the truth about the claims said to have been made by a 'top producer' or whatever he actually was, while he worked on Jim'll Fix it, in either 1988 or 1989 ! After all, if she hadn't spoke to him, would any of us been any the wiser as to that difference of opinion as to what he actually told the hack the night BEFORE they published his little Savile tale.
You see, the BBC in 2012 had rejected claims that Savile had been reported to bosses but those bosses turned a 'blind eye'. More than two years later, the dame concluded FOR the BBC bosses, and very much against the hacks. Well, that's certainly how her words read to me
Read that line again - 'much of the material by which the public had been persuaded that the BBC knew about Savile's crimes was unreliable' ! What the hell ? Is it too much of a stretch of Ms Smith's 'remit' to take that conclusion to it's, well, logical conclusion, that press folk were deliberately spreading lies, or, at the very least, exaggerating or completely altering, other people's already exaggerated claims ?
Mr Nicholson's recollections of what he saw or what he told the sun hack, he allegedly saw in a BBC dressing room, certainly sounded a lot less, well er, criminal, by the times he found himself before the dame in London. Presumably, he'd contacted her to give evidence ?
Over and beyond - the Dame asked the Sun
And she wasn't going to be flipped off with that ! She didn't get the information requested, like Brian Neil QC didn't get any assistance from the NOTW forty odd years earlier, and no one appears to give a shit about that fact either !
All comes to all, the dame exonerated the big boys at the BBC. They did NOT know that Jimmy Savile was committing 'crimes' on their premises because nobody told them, although everyone knew at least one person who knew at least one person who ....
Naturally, Ms Dux was not happy with the dame's conclusions, what does vicarious liability mean again anyone ?
For once I'm in agreement with Liz, I find it 'implausible' too !
To date, no one has used the word 'unreliable' in the same sentence as Liz Dux's eight year old 'victim' of Sir Jimmy Savile. Ooops, I just did !
Tuesday, 6 September 2016
Thursday, 18 August 2016
The Rochdale 'Puppets on a string' Revisited
Goodness Gracious - I know I said in the last blog post I'd publish more extracts from Steven George's Heartless book, but something much more important has sparked my interest. It stated a week or so ago, around the time the Jay appointment was being discussed on twitter !
Helpful to read Matthew Scott's post here
http://barristerblogger.com/2016/08/15/professor-jay-brave-wrong-agree-chair-child-abuse-inquiry/
It wasn't the numbers of 'victims' that caught my attention though, it was Rotherham, as in Rochdale, as in 'Susie' a genuine victim of a group of callous men, whose plight was IGNORED because, those she accused were Asians, and that just didn't sit right with anyone, not the Police, not social services , not the CPS, NO-ONE !
http://rabbitaway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/the-puppets-on-string.html
I've often tried to work out just WHY the same agencies were so quick to append guilt to a figure like Sir Jimmy Savile. I'd hinted at the reason in the post above, and, as usual, I experienced another revelation this week
'May sue' ? Is that Richard Scorer ? Is that 26th September 2012, a week before the Savile dance began ?
The ITV Slater Gordon Abuse Roadshow was kicking off, not in Leeds, not in Scarborough, not in Shepherds Bush or Broadcasting House, but in Rochdale, following the publication of an official 'report'
Hold on, the men were convicted in May 2012 ! Did any of these solicitors consider lodging civil claims against the perpetrators themselves ? I somehow doubt this, better wait for the richer pickings, the pockets of Rochdale taxpayers !
Not sure WHY there are 'another 10 cases in the pipeline' Must be the Savile effect !
I don't know why the thought never crossed my mind to look for Susie in the compo game. She has to be Girl A, why didn't they just call her Susie ? Being one of the FEW genuine abuse complainants whose abusers were eventually tried and convicted following (over) Due Process, the thought of compensatory gain hadn't crossed my mind. I'm not sure how or when it crossed hers, and I certainly do not for one second begrudge her, especially when one considers her journey reporting abuse, one that did NOT start at the doors of the Daily Mirror, Mail or Slater Gordon. No, she did things the right way round - reporting her abusers in 2009. Four years later20th December 2013
It's certainly worth a read - if only for this honest and uplifting admission on Susie's part
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2526896/Revealed-Catalogue-police-failures-let-Rochdale-sex-grooming-gangs-flourish-claims-damning-police-report.html
Bravo Susie - even if it was Slater and Gordon who assisted you in your civil claim. As for the (over)Due Criminal Process, there's something else that's striking about this case, the FORENSIC evidence ! That's DNA to you and me kids ! OMG, how did the CPS fail to prosecute this ?
As for those 1400 projected 'victims' a la Rotherham (see tweet above) the same figure has been used elsewhere. If only these ambulance chasing lawyers, along with the same agencies to 'blame' for ignoring Susie, would stop these wild exaggerations, that can only do harm to genuine victims. I guess exaggeration has it's uses though !
Laugh out loud, whatever happened to the 76 politicians ?
Thank Goodness for Jimmy Savile eh ?
Police have 'vulnerability' teams know ! Who knew as we say on twitter ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32812449
Susie's testimony of a real abuse victim has been hi-jacked. Why ? I commend you to read Ms Hewson's excellent article here. I'm liking this Lord Wolfe chap,is he still alive ?
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/compo-culture-and-the-child-abuse-panic/17145#.V7WjXaJntLM
Helpful to read Matthew Scott's post here
http://barristerblogger.com/2016/08/15/professor-jay-brave-wrong-agree-chair-child-abuse-inquiry/
It wasn't the numbers of 'victims' that caught my attention though, it was Rotherham, as in Rochdale, as in 'Susie' a genuine victim of a group of callous men, whose plight was IGNORED because, those she accused were Asians, and that just didn't sit right with anyone, not the Police, not social services , not the CPS, NO-ONE !
http://rabbitaway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/the-puppets-on-string.html
I've often tried to work out just WHY the same agencies were so quick to append guilt to a figure like Sir Jimmy Savile. I'd hinted at the reason in the post above, and, as usual, I experienced another revelation this week
'May sue' ? Is that Richard Scorer ? Is that 26th September 2012, a week before the Savile dance began ?
The ITV Slater Gordon Abuse Roadshow was kicking off, not in Leeds, not in Scarborough, not in Shepherds Bush or Broadcasting House, but in Rochdale, following the publication of an official 'report'
Hold on, the men were convicted in May 2012 ! Did any of these solicitors consider lodging civil claims against the perpetrators themselves ? I somehow doubt this, better wait for the richer pickings, the pockets of Rochdale taxpayers !
Not sure WHY there are 'another 10 cases in the pipeline' Must be the Savile effect !
I don't know why the thought never crossed my mind to look for Susie in the compo game. She has to be Girl A, why didn't they just call her Susie ? Being one of the FEW genuine abuse complainants whose abusers were eventually tried and convicted following (over) Due Process, the thought of compensatory gain hadn't crossed my mind. I'm not sure how or when it crossed hers, and I certainly do not for one second begrudge her, especially when one considers her journey reporting abuse, one that did NOT start at the doors of the Daily Mirror, Mail or Slater Gordon. No, she did things the right way round - reporting her abusers in 2009. Four years later20th December 2013
It's certainly worth a read - if only for this honest and uplifting admission on Susie's part
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2526896/Revealed-Catalogue-police-failures-let-Rochdale-sex-grooming-gangs-flourish-claims-damning-police-report.html
Bravo Susie - even if it was Slater and Gordon who assisted you in your civil claim. As for the (over)Due Criminal Process, there's something else that's striking about this case, the FORENSIC evidence ! That's DNA to you and me kids ! OMG, how did the CPS fail to prosecute this ?
As for those 1400 projected 'victims' a la Rotherham (see tweet above) the same figure has been used elsewhere. If only these ambulance chasing lawyers, along with the same agencies to 'blame' for ignoring Susie, would stop these wild exaggerations, that can only do harm to genuine victims. I guess exaggeration has it's uses though !
Laugh out loud, whatever happened to the 76 politicians ?
Thank Goodness for Jimmy Savile eh ?
Police have 'vulnerability' teams know ! Who knew as we say on twitter ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32812449
Susie's testimony of a real abuse victim has been hi-jacked. Why ? I commend you to read Ms Hewson's excellent article here. I'm liking this Lord Wolfe chap,is he still alive ?
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/compo-culture-and-the-child-abuse-panic/17145#.V7WjXaJntLM
Saturday, 13 August 2016
Heartless - the Jersey connection
Blimey, here's a 2014 Steven George story that wasn't pursued any further by the British Press, I wonder why ?
It's now 2014 and, it's the first and ONLY time MP and ex-Mayor Bonner Pink has been explicitly outed as Steven George's adoptive dad and alleged abuser, responsible, amongst other things, for her being sent to Broadmoor, only to be abused there as well by, you know who, in a television room at 17 years old. She was born in 1952 by the way
She set fire to a children's home ! * See below as I made a mistake here. Another part of George's CV, conveniently unexplored or even mentioned, from the time he first appeared onscreen in October 2012.
Gosh, it would be horrendous if it were true, but is it ? Personally I think that the fact that Bonner Pink has not been mentioned in either Slater Gordon or Operation Midland dispatches, (correct me if I'm wrong), pretty much establishes that George is indeed another fantasist, at least where 'VIP's' are concerned.
You see in, Heartless post 2007/8 George attempted to tie his adoptive father to a man who was convicted in 2001 of offences relating to boys, a later attempt concerning a girl was thrown out (2008). Now, bear with me guys and gals because, here's where some of the jig-saw stats to fit together !
You see, Steven George makes some very curious admissions in his 2008 thing. He actually admits that he only believed that he might have been the victim of a paedophile ring AFTER 2007. Make that 2008 shall we ?
In 1999 it hadn't dawned on the writer that she might have been the victim of more than just one VIP, which in itself might have sold a few copies.
I'm seeing a pattern here guys and gals, are you ? Find a big story Haut De La Garenne and try and link yourself to it in some way. Being the daughter of an MP who just happens to be dead, and who also just happens to have been closely associated with Portsmouth Council, well, that a manner from heaven for a would be author. And, if that doesn't work for your 2008 revision, well, you can always try Jimmy Savile when he dies !
Les, Cummings who got nowhere with his tales in 2008, found himself on the receiving end of a nice apology, along with a nice wad of cash from the then head of Portsmouth Council in 2014
But, what the hell has this to do with Steven George I hear you ask ? Well, nothing, as it happens, except that his ungrateful adoptive daughter was claiming he'd abused her, and one TORY who stood for Pink's seat when he died in 1988 had just been charged with slightly more recent sexual offences !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/andy-mcsmiths-diary-portsmouth-south-have-been-left-all-at-sea-over-mps-9606036.html
Quite WHY the council was apologising and paying off Cummings for something they would NOT admit liability for, smacks of PR to me. Something happened recently so anything that anyone said in the past and dismissed was now hallowed ground, courtesy in part at least to the likes of this woman !
I jest not guys and gals, because look who's slap bang in the middle of the 'home in Cosham' case, George refers to above !
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/police-probe-county-links-to-jersey-death-1-1291541
Alan Collins was the solicitor involved with the Jersey compo claimants !
Collins had read Cumming's book and was keen to read others !
http://www.abuseclaimsblog.com/tag/portsmouth-cottage-homes/
Now, it's 2008 and every TV screen is alive with tales of horrific abuse and murder in Jersey. Indeed, Slater Gordon to be abuse solicitors were already handling dozens of compensation claims. And where are the claims involving Jimmy Savile ? Steven George's alone would have sufficed, it's not as if the press hadn't tried it on with him. Why didn't she/he say something then ?
I don't need to answer that do I ? Next time, I'll publish more extracts from Heartless, ones that prove just how ungrateful, spiteful and HEARTLESS, Mr George truly is !
Addendum 6th October 2019
I misread the article. It does NOT say she burned down a children's home. It merely says
'In a cry for help I ran away and set fire to a house to get locked up in a prison when I was 15. I made sure no one would be hurt but I wanted to get away from the hell of my life.'
Apologies to anyone offended by me mistaking an empty house for a children's home. My mistake was NOT intentional.
It's now 2014 and, it's the first and ONLY time MP and ex-Mayor Bonner Pink has been explicitly outed as Steven George's adoptive dad and alleged abuser, responsible, amongst other things, for her being sent to Broadmoor, only to be abused there as well by, you know who, in a television room at 17 years old. She was born in 1952 by the way
She set fire to a children's home ! * See below as I made a mistake here. Another part of George's CV, conveniently unexplored or even mentioned, from the time he first appeared onscreen in October 2012.
Gosh, it would be horrendous if it were true, but is it ? Personally I think that the fact that Bonner Pink has not been mentioned in either Slater Gordon or Operation Midland dispatches, (correct me if I'm wrong), pretty much establishes that George is indeed another fantasist, at least where 'VIP's' are concerned.
You see in, Heartless post 2007/8 George attempted to tie his adoptive father to a man who was convicted in 2001 of offences relating to boys, a later attempt concerning a girl was thrown out (2008). Now, bear with me guys and gals because, here's where some of the jig-saw stats to fit together !
You see, Steven George makes some very curious admissions in his 2008 thing. He actually admits that he only believed that he might have been the victim of a paedophile ring AFTER 2007. Make that 2008 shall we ?
In 1999 it hadn't dawned on the writer that she might have been the victim of more than just one VIP, which in itself might have sold a few copies.
I'm seeing a pattern here guys and gals, are you ? Find a big story Haut De La Garenne and try and link yourself to it in some way. Being the daughter of an MP who just happens to be dead, and who also just happens to have been closely associated with Portsmouth Council, well, that a manner from heaven for a would be author. And, if that doesn't work for your 2008 revision, well, you can always try Jimmy Savile when he dies !
Les, Cummings who got nowhere with his tales in 2008, found himself on the receiving end of a nice apology, along with a nice wad of cash from the then head of Portsmouth Council in 2014
But, what the hell has this to do with Steven George I hear you ask ? Well, nothing, as it happens, except that his ungrateful adoptive daughter was claiming he'd abused her, and one TORY who stood for Pink's seat when he died in 1988 had just been charged with slightly more recent sexual offences !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/andy-mcsmiths-diary-portsmouth-south-have-been-left-all-at-sea-over-mps-9606036.html
Quite WHY the council was apologising and paying off Cummings for something they would NOT admit liability for, smacks of PR to me. Something happened recently so anything that anyone said in the past and dismissed was now hallowed ground, courtesy in part at least to the likes of this woman !
I jest not guys and gals, because look who's slap bang in the middle of the 'home in Cosham' case, George refers to above !
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/police-probe-county-links-to-jersey-death-1-1291541
Alan Collins was the solicitor involved with the Jersey compo claimants !
Collins had read Cumming's book and was keen to read others !
http://www.abuseclaimsblog.com/tag/portsmouth-cottage-homes/
Now, it's 2008 and every TV screen is alive with tales of horrific abuse and murder in Jersey. Indeed, Slater Gordon to be abuse solicitors were already handling dozens of compensation claims. And where are the claims involving Jimmy Savile ? Steven George's alone would have sufficed, it's not as if the press hadn't tried it on with him. Why didn't she/he say something then ?
I don't need to answer that do I ? Next time, I'll publish more extracts from Heartless, ones that prove just how ungrateful, spiteful and HEARTLESS, Mr George truly is !
Addendum 6th October 2019
I misread the article. It does NOT say she burned down a children's home. It merely says
'In a cry for help I ran away and set fire to a house to get locked up in a prison when I was 15. I made sure no one would be hurt but I wanted to get away from the hell of my life.'
Apologies to anyone offended by me mistaking an empty house for a children's home. My mistake was NOT intentional.
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