Pages

Saturday 30 September 2023

The Reckoning - When It Comes, Won't Be Televised.

 OK, let's get this done. Next week the BBC* are finally going to Broadcast what they describe as a "factual drama" on the life of Sir Jimmy Savile called : "The Reckoning". Apparently the writer started writing it in 2013 or 14, I forget, filming completed in 2022, but transmission was delayed for various reasons, none of which interest me.

What does very much interest me is this :




I haven't been able to find a full cast list for TR, but apparently this is Steve Coogan (Jimmy Savile) and Gemma Jones (Agnes his mother). 

His mother - whom millions of people knew as 'The Duchess' J.S's pet name for her back then and who had not just one child, but seven*. Those children had children themselves, as did JS's siblings and many of these people are still alive and apparently, not ONE of them was contacted by ITV, save an email that ended thus :




I had to make the image extra large so you could read it. 

Read it and try to imagine yourself in the position of the recipient of this - someone who knew SJS all their life, ran marathons with him, appeared beside him in many press photographs, someone who loved him and - more importantly, someone who still loves him, whose voice has been silenced as have all but one or two of JS's friends and family. Those who knew him best, not some hack, nonentity, who latched onto the man whilst he was alive, hero-worshipped him (he was desperate to get an invite to the funeral), only to jump on the first bandwagon that came along a year later, writing a book full of the nonsense peddled by the media posthumously, now being regurgitated in this factual drama.

Here's one of my reviews of Mr Dan Davies' work.



https://rabbitaway.blogspot.com/2014/07/just-plain-shite.html

But back to the factual drama : as mentioned earlier, I don't have a complete cast list for TR. I suspect IMDB has this wrong - who the hell are any of these people after Steve Coogan ?



The next lot include one BBC bod, so maybe there's mileage in this (I doubt it).


'BBC worker' ? Really ?

I'm going with the wiki effort for the time being. Ray Teret and Bill Cotton is in it, so that might take care of the factual bit. These men did exist after all.



 But, what the hell is this ? Is this alleged incident really featured ? 



 My source for these photos, is an article published two years ago, which - despite getting the BBC and ITV (as the makers of TR) mixed up, provide a useful link to the alleged source of the scenes depicted : a newspaper article from 2016. The contents of which (per the alleged attacks on two teenage girls) sound about as believable as Carl Beech's wasps !

Here's both of them, so you can read it yourselves. It sounds like lies to me. Has ITV really used this in TR ? Is this the standard of their research ?

http://www.scoopyweb.com/2021/11/steve-coogans-eerie-transformation-into.html






 


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/665990/Girls-told-toddle-off-reporting-Jimmy-Savile-Scarborough-police

The photos though ! 





She looks nothing like The Duchess. Even I can see that.

No sign of any photos of Gemma Jones in a more recent article, but the few commentators' comments did make me smile.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10195283/Steve-Coogan-transforms-old-Jimmy-Savile-set-Reckoning.html#comments




Toddling off for some tea now. I'm not finished yet ! 

Jimmy Savile had a family who still love him. I dedicate this to them ! 

Addendum 4/10/23

*Many thanks to the anonymous commentator who, quite rightly, corrected me. I have my first sentence to read that the BBC are broadcasting this miniseries, not ITV. 

How strange :The BBC commissions ITV to make a programme  so that they can broadcast it ? Only in this day and age folks. Only in this one ! I'd laugh, but there's nothing funny about it.

How  appropriate are the words SJS gave to Mensa Magazine in 1992. 

"Corruption spreads.  If the boss is corrupt then the deputy boss is corrupt.  And so is the deputy's deputy and so on and so forth, right down as far as it can possibly reach.  If one poses the question, 'Will you ever eradicate corruption', the answer is 'No'.  Because the resolution of the vast majority of things in the world is attempted by debate.  But very few bring into the frame the thing called human nature.  CORRUPTION IN ALL IT's FORMS, IS THE BEDEVILMENT OF THE WORLD (My emphasis) .

https://rabbitaway.blogspot.com/2014/06/business-as-usual.html


Another addendum 05/10/23 :

*Correction from first draft : Agnes Savile had seven children, not eleven.

43 comments:

  1. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  2. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  3. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  4. How does it feel ? Defending someone whose main ‘hobby’ was fingering kids, and abusing them. Savile was a creepy and weird little man, who enjoyed abusing anyone who crossed his path. You are probably cut from the same cloth I dare say, because I can only imagine that you don’t see anything wrong with that behaviour - otherwise, you wouldn’t have gone to this trouble setting up this weird little blog dedicated to a sick abuser like Savile.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. You sound unhinged love. He was nothing of the sort I'm afraid, a wonderful dedicated and much admired man who has been done a terrible wrong in death. He is not around to defend himself so is reliant on others to do so.

      Delete
    2. Haha - Savile was a sick and weird little man. I think you will find that people like you are in a very small and deranged minority. It is a shame he is not hear to defend himself and face justice. I would like to see that and I dare say that hundreds of his victims would also like to see that. They must feel cheated that he escaped justice and least lived to have spent some time in jail, getting bummed every night - see how he liked to be on the receiving. Although I would imagine that he would probably have enjoyed that. At least they have had the chance to tell their stories and expose the little sicko and see every legacy of Savile’s existence trashed and dragged through the mud. Whilst a small group of equally retired nobs still cling to the fairytale that he was a much maligned ‘great man’. You couldn’t make it up.

      Delete
    3. Btw - Savile was ‘dedicated’, I will grant you that. Dedicated to pursuing his perverted desires throughout his sick little life. Dedicated to abusing kids. Dedicated to abusing the disabled. Dedicated to getting himself into any position where he could have access to the vulnerable - and where he could satiate his perverted desires. Yes, he was incredibly dedicated.

      Delete
    4. @Anonymous Always interesting how people like you project your dark sexual fantasies.

      Delete
    5. It is shameful and revolting that weirdos and gimps like you try to justify the sexual abuse of kids by this disturbed individual. I bet you wouldn’t be quite as forgiving Tom if it was your daughter who had been abused by this vile cunt. Or your wife. Or your sister. I bet you would be crying your eyes out Tom.

      That said, I can only imagine that anyone who attempts to justify this kind of sick behaviour is just as sick themselves, so I would imagine that you spend most of your leisure time shagging your kids and thinking it is normal.

      You are a sick cunt.

      Delete
    6. @Anonymous I hope the owner of this blog lets your latest comment stand. It says everything that needs to be said about people like you. I am quite disturbed by you, actually, and I really think you should sit and reflect on your language and the contents of your posts and what it may say about you.

      Paedophilic child abuse and sexual exploitation of young children are vile crimes but I don't feel the need to repeatedly emphasise it or loudly go round proclaiming my objection to such conduct since I consider it should be obvious to any sane person that such things are vile and objectionable. I am not a clinician, but it is clear to me that somebody who is sexually attracted to a prepubescent child is in need of help and treatment - which includes due punishment.

      Delete
    7. Yes Tom, people like me happen to think that Jimmy Savile was a vile and evil serial abuser of the vulnerable. So I guess you are really that that my comment should stand as it does say everything about me and the majority of right minded individuals. However, people who seek to justify and defend someone like Savile who is responsible for ruining so many lives - well it does speak volumes about you and your disturbed little bunch of pals.

      As I mention below, if you are so confident that Savile is an innocent man, you ought to be far more bullish in your campaign and be far more public about it.

      Savile was a creepy and weird little man who dedicated his life to abusing the vulnerable - it didn’t matter whether you were young or old, dead or alive. Savile did not discriminate. He missed his power and his position to abuse and rape.

      It is a real shame that his crimes where not exposed before he died so he could’ve been put on trial.

      Delete
    8. Btw Tom (just in case you hadn’t realised), after Savile’s death in 2011, hundreds of his victims came forward. The public eventually learned that one of Britain’s most famous light entertainment stars was also one of the country’s most prolific paedophiles. His crimes date back to the 1950s.

      Please forgive me, because you’ve already said you think that sexual exploitation of children is a vile crime - so the obvious question to ask is why are you contributing to a website dedicated to seeking justice for the child rapist, Jimmy Savile ?

      Delete
    9. I have never said that Jimmy Savile is an innocent man. I think you've misunderstood. Just because I comment in a way that seems favourable towards this blog, it doesn't follow that I agree with what this blog says. There is such a thing as listening to people and keeping an open mind about things. Yes, we should listen to complainants, but we should also hear the other side and consider whether a case has been made out and proven.

      I'm afraid the fact that hundreds of people came forward after Savile's death is entirely unconvincing. We would be just as unconvincing had it happened before his death. It is not evidence. The legal reform of some years ago that removed the rule against corroborative incrimination was very wrong because it further undermined the presumption of innocence and burden of proof - which are defences against tyranny.

      I am unimpressed by your comments and unmoved by your sickly, mawkish appeals to sentiment. You ask me to forgive you for your comments. I will not do so. You remind me very much of the likes of Shaun Attwood and Matthew Steeples and similar vile characters who revel in this stuff and would go on about it 24/7 if they had the chance. Personally I find it an unpleasant subject and would as well do without discussing it, but just as I object to the crime, I also object to innocents being accused of such crimes on the flimsiest evidence.

      Now away with you! Go and poison some other place.

      Delete
    10. Please forgive me, but I don’t give a fuck whether you are impressed or not you little prick. Savile has been exposed as a vile sexual predator who preyed upon the most vulnerable people you could imagine - abusing the disabled and fingering kids arseholes was the way he enjoyed to spend his time and he used his fame and power to continue to perpetrate his vile crimes over many decades.

      The fact that you remain ‘unconvinced’ is neither here nor there my friend. Most decent minded people tend not stick up for serial sex offenders and rapists.

      I would like to see what reaction you would get putting your argument that 100s of victims and witnesses coming forward after his death is ‘unconvincing’. I would love to see that. But of course little creeps and weirdos like you like to hide away in the darkest recesses of the internet amongst like minded perverts and degenerates.

      Savile was Britain’s most prolific sex offenders and deviant and the fact that he was never brought to justice in life is a real tragedy. I don’t care how you try to dress it up, you are cunt who deserves nothing but utter contempt and scorn and I hope the cunt of a moderator leaves my comments here for you and your sick little chums to see - as a reminder that the vast majority of people would in this country would find you and your views completely appalling and repulsive.

      Your kids and family must be extremely proud of you - although I suspect you keep your deviant thoughts and theories to yourself.

      Delete
    11. Check this out Tom. I reckon they would organise this for free for you and your mates. They would probably see it as a public service. 😂

      http://www.dignitas.ch/?lang=en

      Delete
    12. Your aggression, foul language and general attitude speak volumes.

      Delete
  5. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  6. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  7. To explain Jimmy Savile's crimes as evil or wicked misses the mark. The important lesson is that he was deeply disturbed, as well as disturbing. Some of the psychology behind his abusive behaviour – which was set out in more, shocking detail today – can be pieced together from its pattern. Many of the assaults were without warning. He would suddenly place his hand somewhere he should not, plant his mouth on unsuspecting lips. Frequently this was done in public places. The root of such intrusion is projection.

    It is a mechanism we all may use when we have an uncomfortable feeling to get rid of. We sometimes employ each other as emotional dustbins: you are feeling depressed or angry and without thinking about it, you do something to make someone else feel those things. To understand what Savile was feeling when he groped in public, hear how his victims felt – humiliated, powerless, frightened, finally angry. Those will have been the emotions he lived with and, more or less, urgently needed to extrude.

    ReplyDelete
  8. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  9. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    ReplyDelete
  10. My understanding is that, somewhat unusually, the production company is ITV but the drama is funded, and will be broadcast by, the BBC. Perhaps double check and correct your opening sentence.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Thank you nice Anonymous ! I have corrected my mistake and added a bit more to this post, inspired by you !

      Delete
  11. Small correction Rabbit. The Duchess had seven children not eleven.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Thanks for that. I should let you write the next one, nice anonymous !!!

      Delete
  12. Here’s one for you - you know when Savile’s mum was dead and he had all that time with alone. What sick things did he get up to I wonder. We already know that one of Savile’s past times was fiddling with, abusing and playing with corpses in the hospital mortuary. I bet he had some right old fun with the Duchess !! Lol 😂

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. THAT'S ENOUGH !!! Whoever you are. Do not dare speak about this vile story you've decided to repeat. It is totally untrue. He was in London when she died and she spent her wake at her daughters house. STOP IT! Bleating your vile mouth here is one thing but speakng like this about her is an abomination.

      Delete
    2. You stay that Amanda, but Savile did like fucking corpses. And he was not in London. He was in his front room fucking his dead mum. What does it feel like to defend a man who abused and raped so many kids ?

      Delete
    3. JIMMY Savile was seen wheeling the body of a four-year-old child in a pram into a hospital mortuary, a new report into the paedophile's sick behaviour has revealed.

      On one night in the 1970s, a night porter saw Savile wheeling the dead body of a child into the morgue.

      Another witness, a former therapist at the hospital, said he had been told Savile had been seen "trying to have sexual intercourse with dead bodies in the hospital mortuary"

      A former nurse told investigators how she was warned not to go down to the morgue if the "pink-haired man is there".

      Savile abused a total of 60 victims at Stoke Mandeville between 1968 and 1992

      The star's older brother Johnny was also a sexual predator and was linked to five rapes in Springfield Hospital in South London

      Nine complaints about Savile's behaviour were made but none "were taken seriously"

      Evidence from Savile's victims at Stoke Mandeville suggest his shocking behaviour was an "open secret" as early as 1973 after he started working at the Buckinghamshire hospital as a voluntary porter "with no checks, monitoring or supervision in place".

      Two witnesses told investigators they had heard Savile was having sex with corpses, although no further evidence to support the allegation was found.

      Previous reports into Savile's abuse heard "macabre accounts" of claims the now-dead TV and radio presenter performed sex acts on dead bodies in the mortuary at Leeds General Infirmary (LGI).

      Among 60 victims of the depraved entertainer at Stoke Mandeville were children as young as eight, a pregnant mother in her 20s in hospital with her sick son and a 19-year-old paralysed woman in a wheelchair.

      A former nurse told investigators how she was warned about a man believed to be Jimmy Savile in the mortuary at Leeds General Infirmary (LGI) as long ago as 1954.

      The woman told investigators that as a trainee nurse in that year she was heading down to the hospital's mortuary when the ward sister told her "to be careful and come back if the pink-haired man is there".

      The report said: "TB recalls that when she went to the mortuary, 'he was there so I turned round and went back to the ward'."

      It said: "When we asked who TB thought the 'pink-haired man' was, TB was convinced that he was Savile."

      Another witness remembers Savile taking the body of a four-year-old child to the mortuary in a pram one night in the 1970s.

      A pram had to be used as the child was too big for the trolley usually used for children and too small for the one normally used for adults.

      The night nursing officer, who has not been named, made the arrangement and Savile collected the body on his own.

      Dr Sue Proctor, who led the main investigation into Savile's abuse at the Leeds General Iinfirmary, told a press conference last year that Savile claimed that large rings he wore were "made from the glass eyes of dead bodies at the mortuary".

      Savile's other victims at the LGI ranged from five-year-old children to pensioners and included men, women, boys and girls.

      A 23-year-old radiographer in the late 1970s at the hospital, known as victim 19, said she often saw Savile walking around the hospital at night, assisting the porters.

      The report added: "A nurse that victim 19 spoke to said that Savile would often push his way into their rooms and that he was known to be a dirty old man. No one ever indicated that Savile had actually abused them; he was regarded as a pain, nothing more."

      The woman also noted that "Savile's brother (uncertain which one) used to wander around the hospital also dressed in a tracksuit. The common view was that he cut a rather pathetic figure".

      Delete
    4. Why didn't you just post the Link?
      https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/jimmy-savile-seen-having-sex-5236010

      Delete
    5. Because it’s not clickable and you would have to cut and paste it which you would be unlikely to do. It’s better to have the words and his deeds here in full sight visible and taunting to dickheads like you.

      Delete
    6. Duh.....
      I cut AND pasted it
      Dickheads like you cannot do anything other than copy the entirety of Mainstream Media farticles and think it proves something other than that some twat journalist published it...... lmfao

      Delete
    7. You are a sick fuck pal. I bet you are wanking yourself over all your sick little perverted Savile fantasies and conspiracy shite. I bet you are gutted that the reputation of your hero has been trashed and dragged through the gutter - his house in Scotland vandalised and wrecked and his gravestone removed and ground down. Hilarious. I bet you are crying and you are convinced Savile has been hard done by and you even think that one day your version of the truth will come to the fore and everyone will see how hard done by Savile was. It will never happen pal. I bet your family would disown you if they knew I of the dirty little secret you have. You and your tawdry group of little pals are worthy of nothing but contempt.
      Btw - how does it feel knowing that Jimmy fucked his dead mum ? I bet you’re crying, you little prick.

      Delete
  13. Btw - I think you ought to be more bullish with your campaign. I mean it’s hardly in the limelight tucked away in this vile little corner of the internet. You should go public - FB page, social media campaigns, newspapers, marches, petitions etc. The fact that an innocent man has had their reputation trashed is worthy of a greater stage than this sad little forum. Plus, the general public can see the kinds of sick, inadequate, repulsive gimps who try to justify the abuse of the vulnerable by this serial abuser and rapist.

    I bet your families would be so proud of you all. A real story to tell your grandkids. 😂

    ReplyDelete
  14. FAO Tom Rogers : Thank you for your comments. Your intelligent, reasoned and compassionate thoughts appear to have triggered something in the angry anonymous one. I'll leave some of her comments on, in order to provide context for your responses.
    Your voice will be celebrated by the many who read, follow and support this blog. Almost half a million views so far and still going strong.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I will tell you something though - you are not on your own. Jonathan King and Peter Sutcliffe (The Yorkshire Ripper) both said that Savile was a great guy and completely innocent of ant crimes. You see, there are other people just like you. 😂

      Delete
  15. On 26 June 2014, UK Secretary of State for Health Jeremy Hunt delivered a public apology in the House of Commons to the patients of the National Health Service abused by Savile.

    He confirmed that complaints had been raised before 2012 but were ignored by the bureaucratic system:

    "Savile was a callous, opportunistic, wicked predator who abused and raped individuals, many of them patients and young people, who expected and had a right to expect to be safe. His actions span five decades – from the 1960s to 2010. ... As a nation at that time we held Savile in our affection as a somewhat eccentric national treasure with a strong commitment to charitable causes. Today's reports show that in reality he was a sickening and prolific sexual abuser who repeatedly exploited the trust of a nation for his own vile purposes."

    ReplyDelete
  16. I have just seen these comments from Anonymous who appears to be unhinged and who is parroting nonsense picked up from the mainstream media. Anonymous states that 'after Savile’s death in 2011, hundreds of his victims came forward'. This is incorrect, no victims came forward at this time. The 'victims' only came forward after the ITV Exposure programme broadcast in October 2012. The fabrications in this programme have been exposed by Rabbitaway, Moor Larkin, and the late Anna Raccoon which I have summarised here http://bit.ly/2dybGYs If you have any evidence to refute these findings about this programme please provide it.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Why don’t you go to Savile’s victims or go into the public domain with your deranged and unhinged theories you sick minded fucking wanker. I bet you will get the shit kicked out of you - and that will just be from your own family. Only a mentally sick and depraved individual would be a denier of Savile’s crimes. Has it occurred to you that the ITV exposure might’ve provided those victims with the courage to step forward. It must be gutting for you to see your hero and his reputation trashed and dragged through the mud, stripped of all his honours, his gravestone taken away and ground into dust and now a drama showing all of his revolting crimes. The most hated and reviled man in the country. Except for the little depraved corner of the internet where sickos like you and your depraved little mates still wank over his memory.

      Delete
    2. These are not theories, deranged or otherwise, they are based on research and facts discovered by this blogger and others. You appear to not have read the analysis and summary for which I provided you with a link. All the claims in the ITV Exposure programme have been shown to be fabrications so there were no 'victims courageously stepping forward'. If you can provide me with the refutation I am seeking you will earn my respect. Your insulting language, inability to view this subject objectively, and emotional gibberish earns nothing but contempt.

      Delete
    3. How does it feel to defend someone who fucked kids and fingered their arseholes ? You must be as sick as that vile cunt Savile. If Savile was innocent I’m surprised it’s not come out by now and all over the news. You ar not doing a very good job are you ?

      Delete
  17. Posting a blog on the subject (as Mr Voxpopper has done) and commenting publicly on another blog is the very definition of "going into the public domain". That's the wonderful thing about the internet, being able to express a point of view regardless of the frothing meltdown of Mr or Mrs (it normally is women) Anonymous above.

    The best bit about it all is that Sir Jimmy is looking down from heaven chortling about it all. You keep marching towards your inevitable stroke. The rest of us normal people will keep scratching away at the truth. And the light will shine on it, eventually.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. How’s that light shining on Savile ? How is you sick little campaign going ? Haha

      Delete