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Thursday, 28 May 2015

Monster's in the woods !

A few days ago Graham Wilmer MBE who heads up a child sex abuse charity, made these ominous sounding announcements via twitter
Ignore the twitter clock, I have no idea what time zone it uses. But, all was revealed when Esther stepped forward as the latest in a long line of 'brave' women, who claim to have been abused by some famous person (or persons) years ago. 
 Sky news appear to have been first past the post with the story as Esther explains her reasons for coming out with all this now
I assume that bit about approaching the police 'again' is an error on the writer's part. Esther is suddenly catapulted into the CSA limelight and instant fame
The guardian reports that the politician she named is still alive and, 'of the current political era' so I guess that means he's a tory !
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/26/vip-paedophile-ring-woman-waives-anonymity-link-politician-abuse
So, what are we to make of all this ? Is this the breakthrough the whack jobs have been waiting for ? Will Graham Wilmer MBE get an OBE or even a knighthood for nurturing Esther.
 
 Staffs Police are taking the claims seriously and woe to any journalist who fails to follow the party line !
What was it this journalist did to annoy Mr Wilmer MBE ? Well, he hasn't automatically believed her that's what

 Bloody hell, give this man/woman an award for journalism. Is he/she still employed ? I hope he is

http://www.expressandstar.com/comment-and-opinion/2015/05/27/comment-care-is-vital-over-abuse-allegations/
Esther is a child sex abuse charity's poster girl now. She's being feted by media and power-hungry politicians alike. But, all is not well in the survivor camps. One would think they would be careful to present a united front for their cause, but no, this is NOT the case.
We cannot know whether Esther's tales from the woods have any basis in fact. Perhaps, she is a victim of abuse, perhaps she's just another attention-seeking lady, or, a 'pawn' as one tweep dared to call her. 
We do know that some terrible things did happen in the woodlands of Cannock Chase. But these awful events did NOT involve Lords or judges or tory politicians. Just a sick man who raped and murdered children and who deserved his LIFE sentence at her majesty's pleasure !

 http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/13/cannock-chase-child-killer-raymond-morris-dies-in-prison/
These horrible crimes took place in my childhood. I remember some of them very well, along with the horror that, that child could well have been me !
Cannock Chase in the Midlands not far from Birmingham, is said to be haunted by a child. A 'black-eyed child' to be precise


 http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/black-eyed-child-returns-haunt-7846214
 I love a good ghost story myself ! But now I'm all grown up I know that really dangerous people don't look like evil personified. They look like this guy, Raymond Morris !

24 comments:

  1. Raymond Morris died, in prison, early last year; a few months later, all the publicity about the "Black-Eyed Ghost Girl" started; purely by coincidence, a local psychic was flogging a book that feature the Black-Eyed Ghost. Now this woman has come forward with her story of horrific childhood abuse in Cannock Chase. Another coincidence, I'm sure....

    My sympathy is all for the families of the three murdered girls, and for the girl Morris assaulted and almost murdered; this must be bringing up awful memories for them. I have zero sympathy for a delusional attention-seeker.

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    1. Wonder when she first pitched up at Wilmer's lantern Project ? And what sort of 'counselling' she had there.
      Wholeheartedly agree with your comments Mrs G, how awful for real victims who suffer in dignified silence !

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    2. From the Wikipedia entry on the Cannock Chase murders: "On 1 December 1964, 9-year old Julia Taylor was lured into a car in Bloxwich by a man claiming to be a friend of her mother. The girl was sexually assaulted, strangled and left for dead....."
      ".....during the trial a now teenage Julia Taylor was removed from the public gallery after crying out "That's him. That's the man that did it to me."

      She didn't need any bloody survivors' group to help her remember!

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    3. OMG, I hope she is well and this hasn't destroyed her life the way ,a pat on the arm, has destroyed the Savile composters' lives

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  2. This NZ media outlet lets slip what lies beneath.

    "Esther Baker has provided evidence against a Labour peer in a police investigation into 1400 alleged child sex abusers"
    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/world/sexual-abuse-inquiry-led-by-nz-judge-doubted/

    Interesting that it's now moving into the 80's and 90's, where the accused are more likely to be alive. There will be blood.

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  3. A bloody countdown!
    Does he think it's a game show?

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    1. TV Game Show is exactly what it is... :-D

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  4. Ms Baker a few days ago ( pre Sky broadcast) went into a frenzy about how a csa meeting unauthorised recording might 'identify her if it were made public (which was at best, extremely doubtful). It caused her much distress she claimed, reliving abuse, her abusers might locate her etc.That was just a few days before her media story went public and she identified herself with pictures and PR to millions,not just a few twitterati
    She works in a betting shop in Merseyside
    So why the fake outrage and tears a few days before? -see her timeline,
    Was it distress as she claims that a previous alleged abuser might identify her, or merely distress it might interfere with her media exclusive spotlight?
    It must have been lies because she was clearly going ahead with Sky at the time, which meant millions would see and know, including her alleged abusers.
    Or was it just her excuse to attack someone on a false pretext, even now more fake outrage saying the Inquiry isn't 'protecting her' .It was her choice to launch the PR with Sky, not the Home Office.


    Check on all the sky reports for the plug for Lantern project at the bottom, since this venture was organized by Wilmer, and he got his spot and plug in on every Sky report as a condition.
    Would it have been given the coverage without the alleged politician??

    So it's not just someone deciding to go tell the police, it's a planned media staged event linked to funding and promotion.
    Why not just go to the police and let them handle it, including any public appeals?
    why prejudice a case via a media story?
    There is an obvious answer.
    Wilmer wants to be seen as THE voice of survivors and wants cash, and losing his position on the panel meant he lost not only the fat daily fee, he lost his snout in trough time for available funding that went with it.Since then he's been MEGA MEGA pissed off, blaming McFadyen and Laveri
    Esther is part of his troll group for both, along with his son Rory ( twitter account now deactivated ) who basically said McFadyen was a paedophile and more.It was all very very very toxic from Rory. So much so that Rory Wilmer's previous supporter and helper, gojam, decided he was too much of a liability and disowned him- see his TL - i have screenshots.
    RWilmers account 'disappeared' shortly afterwards. Graham Wilmers proxy trolling nosedived.

    This is Rory and the Wilmer desire for publicity

    http://newfathers4justice.co.uk/2014/12/03/10-years-ago-radio-tower-trick-takes-fathers-group-protest-to-new-heights/

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1387279

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/3749284.stm

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/wirral-pothole-campaigner-captain-craters-3572456

    Not comprehensive, but arrested and charged numerous times.

    Rory claimed he just wanted to see his son, who was about 5 at the time in 2004 ( now about 16). Heart strings you might say, except it's hardly the full story.He was abusive to his ex,and had restricted access to his son as a result,but he wanted it HIS way or no way, threatening his ex if he didn't get it.But if he was so wanting contact with his son, why did he a few months after the demos, piss off to Europe for 10 years traveling and avoiding maintenance?
    Both Wilmers are very OCD liars who demand their own way or else.

    Why does Ms Baker seem more keen until the recent Sky report that is,on trolling other 'survivors' namely McFadyen and Laveri and supporters,than anything else?
    That didn't make the Sky report,surprise, surprise!!!!

    There is far more untold and reaches back to others.

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    1. Today England.
      Tomorrow. The World!!
      https://twitter.com/Esther9982/status/603877672264040448

      Where's the boy Messham these days?

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  5. Esther Baker may indeed have been a victim of abuse at some time, by someone. But it's hard to work out who, as she claims to have been assaulted by many different individuals. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sm9hsl. I'm also left confused as to what she told the police sixteen months ago when they rescued her from domestic abuse and what she's only told them now. Have they investigated or even arrested any of the other people she's accused of serious criminality - her father, the pimp, her partner, any of their associates?
    I have to say the Sky news tale sounds like a rehash of the old Satanic abuse stories, hence the incongruous open air setting. The mention of a *Labour* politician may be a subtle hint that the whole thing is even sillier than it appears.
    Perhaps they should put up posters.
    'Were you on Cannock Chase in the 1980s or 1990s? Did you see a bunch of kids,miscellanous adults, and a well known politician with a police guard. Oh, and a cameraman. If so contact Staffs Police on etc.etc.
    If you go down to the woods tonight . . .

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  6. I have read Esther Bakers tweets, and not just the recent ones, but those dating back for some time. I would describe her as something of a social media bully, who if confronted quickly plays the victim card to try to portray herself differently than her actions would suggest.

    No, we heard nothing in the MSM of her claimed long term family abuse, or the abuse she's claiming with later partners, yet this must have covered a larger section of her life, and where she must know some of the names of her alleged abusers, who if correct would have abused others, so one might expect greater chance of prosecution.What we only get to hear is of nebulous Lords, Judges, and a 'Politician' the headline grabbing stuff that sells.

    She claims her mother was a nurse who worked night shifts during her childhood, which provided the opportunity for her father to abuse her. Odd then that what must have been some very obvious physical and mental signs of distress, her mother failed to note or act upon

    There is I understand, a Sunday Times article due which she appears upset about and she claims it concerns one of her alleged abusers

    She is described as co-founder of the new CSA group reflections UK, with her twitter associates including Graham Wilmer.Oddly enough these events have all coincided.

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    1. These 'victims' 'survivors' have developed a pack-like mentality. Many of her contacts on twitter are nasty characters, our 'fans' as I call them. Amazing how forceful these frightened, timid 'victims' have become !

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  7. I believe the Sunday Times article is this weekend, and she Baker is already saying it's lies. I can only assume it's her father/ex/pimp as they must be the easiest to trace.
    Surely it's only fair to hear both sides, even in the media.

    I have heard nothing whether any previous claimed abuse was actually prosecuted or not. If not why not, and why is so little coverage given to it?
    Bit like Karen Danzuck's own claims which her family contested were porkies.
    I am sure having her husband an MP on the make and plugging child abuse,and Karen looking for advancement had nothing to do with it.
    Perish the thought.

    I don't know what happened or not to EB, but I find the thought that such a group on the chase were calling each other judge, or lord during a major crime.
    What next, bank robbers leaving their contact details.




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  8. I'm glad I'm not the only one with doubts.
    It gets even weirder now Esther too has joined another from the exaro stable Darren (whose twitter account is utterly hilarious btw) in adding Dolphin Square and the dreaded m m me medical room to her tale. While her mother was at work she didn't half get around if she managed to get to London and back in time for breakfast, never missing a day off school either.
    Plus it makes absolute sense, not, to declare one week that she works in a bookies in Liverpool and is terrified she is that her abusers will find her and then the next week goes about as public as you can get.
    The police must be sick of their lives with exaro and its stable of charlatans.

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  9. I was thinking the same on the Dolphin Sq aspect that Fester said she read someone's description, and decided she was there too. Most nurses work shifts, bit unusual to be working all nights if that's what she is implying.But it gets more bizarre. She is saying there wasn't just her, but about 7 girls on the chase.Seven!!!!!. So how many alleged abusers, apart that is from just 2 police officers, sometimes in uniform, sometimes not. I wonder how she knew they were police officers if not in uniform,unless she's claiming they were just two regulars. So for all those years with all those girls, in the evening sessions and all those people, nobody noticed/reported a bus trip on the chase, with a large number of people, few policemen, camera, lights and strange goings on, and why no girl made a break for it and managed to successfully hide in the undergrowth, at least a few times, given there were about 7 or more?
    Why the chase anyway, surely it's hardly the place to take 7 or more kids to abuse in secret given the risks involved, surely they would have found a secure place rather than risk being caught by passers by, who apparently never saw a thing over all those years.

    She claims by going public now, shes more safe since her abusers wont dare come back as she's now high profile. Since the only abuse she is talking about is when she was a girl, she isn't anymore, so why would they?
    She also says she first reported events to the police in 2012, but by implication, nothing happened.
    I wonder why? Wasn't till she teamed up with the-man-with-a-stupid-moustache and exaro,a former lib dem mp, and sky, that changed. Exaro sell stories and need cash.What sells now is this stuff.
    Anyone 'counseling' must have few stories they could plug, add a bit of media circulated but uncorroborated gossip, provided by newsagency and dah da.

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  10. The ex LibDem she is accusing, if you read back on her tweets, is actually part of the inquiry.
    He sat in on many meetings, poses as defender of children and a reformer. I know one smart chap's worked it out - he pointed it out to me. Once you know who she is accusing, the fury of some of the others in the group makes sense! Look at Wilmer's tweets about hiding in plain sight, cloaking devices, the inquiry being infiltrated by paedophiles...

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  11. There are no MP's who are 'part of the Inquiry' .I read what she tweeted, taken with other bits of information it's not difficult to narrow things down.That should not be done.
    That's what happens when you bit by bit have someone named. So anyone coming forward could have done the same, together with now knowing details of where, how and when.Evidence unreliable.
    Wilmer is stupid, and his son is even more stupid.The only thing he's interested in is cash and revenge.
    Wouldn't trust him an inch. Can't say much more about Baker either from what I've seen and read.
    I don't want trial by media, and I don't believe in those who do.



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    1. Thank you for your comments Anon'. You are quite right, this constant hinting and discussion online is dangerous but what can you do ? I've noticed no one has come out and actually named the MP in question, but yes, it's obvious who Wilmer is hinting at when you read his twitter TL. What a loathsome creature he is. Him and the rest of the professional 'victim' society !

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  12. Exro won't, they will just drop hints,because it's yet another drip-by-drip story to flog.They can't afford a libel action.
    They need cash pronto to pay back their loans,and were allegedly expecting a few nice stories from some former Inquiry panelists as was, till May rightly dumped the old panel, and now they have never stopped moaning about it since.
    Wilmer's customers might be a ready made client list for any PI firm, and Wilmer would have had his panel fees and funding under the old setup.
    T King wants to be deputy leader of Labour Party, partly on the back of csa

    All very cosy, but nowt much to do with justice.

    Wilmer and his cronies are loathsome self-interested vermin, pretending to be something else.








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  13. Has nobody picked up that Exaro emerged suspicious close to the time of the Jimmy Savile 'Exposé' by Mark Williams Thomas? The same MWT who supplied the alleged victim that forced the police visit on Cliff Richards property. The same MWT who ignores any child abuse survivor that does not give him material for his TV appearances. The boy Messham is to be found sitting in the public gallery at Mold Crown Court, clutching his sandwiches and thermos flask watching the latest trial that has emerged from Operation Pallial.

    Al of these 'victims' being supported by iffy bloggers like Gojam and the odious Thomas Pride, who has oddly enough made an allegation that he was abused at the age of thirteen by Jimmy Savile when he appeared on Jim'll Fix It in 1977.

    None of these victims' story will stand up to scrutiny. In fact, they change from one media interview to the next and all are supported by the usual suspects on Twitter who also gang stalk and attack any survivor who does not play along.

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  14. You complete and utter arseholes. You have no idea! Way too quick to judge. The Lantern Project is such an amazing organisation who in no way care or are interested in fees from anyone!
    You bastards have no clue. Wait and see then your apology will still not be accepted!!!!!

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    1. Thank you Michaela but I won't be apologising to anyone, any time soon. I blog as I find !

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  15. That would be the same Ms Norton who is seen in a picture cuddling up to Mr Wilmer, and religiously defends his every action on social media.
    Wilmer is a very odd looking character, and while that isn't always a good indicator, in this instance it rather is.
    He & his son the feckless Rory ( whose idea of beautiful Prague and Performance Art, was slinging dog poo around the city ) have been trolling others on twitter because he is pissed off he lost his daily dosh.

    He is currently spamming everyone to support his bid for cash, even though Ms Norton says he has no interest in it.
    Odd the FACTS don't support her.
    How much did Exaro make from selling Bakers story to MGN? how much did Baker & Wilmer get?

    Baker's supporters claim she got nowhere till she teamed up with Wilmer, and the mysterious Lords & Judges, and the not so mysterious Lib Dem ex MP
    And Exaro know of two others alleged to have come forward- one before Bakers own PR campaign
    So how do Exaro know as apparently they haven't been interviewed, nor to my knowledge have the police confirmed this?
    Surely they aren't more complainants from the Exaro stable, - come forward my children, Exaro will listen and sell your story - 'by the way did you ever meet one ex LibDem MP vocally supportive of the Inquiry, surely you must have, perhaps in the Chase - think hard I am sure you will recall, we can help.'

    I have no reason to believe some of the volunteers are not supportive at Lantern, but Wilmer has his eye & their stories on other more material things if they broadly fit the bill, and are receptive.
    Add to that Exaro's appeal for you to tell them your tale, and you too could be in the Sunday People or Mirror.Complainants get publicity and greater focus from the police, others get a nice wedge out of it.











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    1. Presumably Wilmer's speaking up in defence of Prince Charles at least, on the circuit these days.
      http://www.lanternproject.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/140124_088_for-press_IMG_6180-731x1024.jpg

      Where does an MBE fit, in between an OBE and a Knighthood I wonder.

      They do like their gongs and glad-handing of course. Peter saunders claims to have been raped by priests but was so very excited about meeting the uber-priest.
      http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/g/h/d/t/s/m/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.ghdtdn.png/1433132403131.jpg

      Cant. Know thyself.

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